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• Friday, 31 July 2026 11:06 posted by single_wqMn Comment Link

  Right — been using this thing for maybe four months now and it's basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I'd write something up since a mate asked me the other day. Am UK based, mainly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
  
  The reason I started using it was actually pretty stupid — I couldn't ever get my head round what an e/w return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I used to just eyeball it and then be surprised. These days I type the odds in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.
  
  Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I'm on daily — you drop in the price and your stake and you get returns with no faffing, fractions or decimals. There's also the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles returns, a lucky 15, yankees, which is where I'd always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it lives at dutch betting and it's free with no account nonsense.
  
  One thing that genuinely changed how I bet is the nerdier tools. There's an probability converter that shows what margin's baked in, and a kelly staking tool — I use half kelly as the full version is terrifying. Dutching calculator is decent if I'm splitting a race.
  
  Couple of gripes. The layout is very functional, let's say — zero polish, which honestly I don't mind but some will. On my phone it works but the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. There's no app, just the site — slight shame but worth saying.
  
  So yeah. Doesn't cost anything, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. Anyone who even now adds it up in their head, give it a go — it's saved me a fair few "wait, that's it?" moments.

• Friday, 31 July 2026 11:03 posted by single_xlel Comment Link

  OK — been using this thing for maybe six months now and it's stuck on my phone, so figured I'd write something up since someone asked me the other day. I'm in the UK, mainly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
  
  How I found it was genuinely a bit daft — I couldn't ever get my head round what an ew payout actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now punch the numbers in before every slip, even the boring singles.
  
  Their single bet calculator is the bit I open most — type in the price and your stake and you get the return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn't matter. It also handles the multiples — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, and that's where most people I know lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at kelly criterion — free, no signup.
  
  One thing that genuinely changed how I bet was the geekier bits. There's an implied probability thing and it makes obvious what margin's baked in, and there's the kelly tool — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutching one is decent for when I'm splitting a race.
  
  It's not perfect mind. The interface is very functional, let's say — zero polish, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it's usable though the bigger tables are a squeeze. And no proper app, just the site — slight shame just flagging it.
  
  Right, that's me. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does the job. Anyone who honestly works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — it's saved me plenty of "wait, that's it?" moments.

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